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Archive 2015 / 09 (End of Alpha)


As far as I understood, this wiki is supposed to be the official documentation/manual for the game (at least it says so on the main page: "We are hoping to use this Wiki as the primary source for help with the game", and the game says so in its menu currently, by linking to the wiki as "Help/Wiki") that is going to be released soon. As such, it should document the final game. Currently however, many articles rather document the development. Many articles do have extended "History" sections (I already moved some of them from the middle of the articles to their end), other ones have sentences like "In Alpha 12, this and that was introduced. In Alpha 15, it was changed like that. As of Alpha 20, it now behaves like this. It probably will be changed in the future to do this and that." (I already reduced some of those passages to the minimum, sometimes completely removing them). While those information surely was helpful during development of this wiki itself, and for the alpha players who occasionally used thexwiki as a refernce, possibly wondering why that one feature now behaves differently than before, I am assuming that the wiki will be used by regular players more often in the future and that Alpha development histories are not interesting for them, if not even disturbing. So what should we do with them?

  • Nothing, they are good as they are.
  • Reduce them, e.g. by only having History sections at the end, no development references in the middle of the text.
  • Completely remove them, as they are of no interest generally. If someone really cares about the history, the history of the wiki articles themselves might help them, and of course we could/would keep the Alpha 1 etc. articles plus Version History. For some articles, history information still could be part of the trivia section (like the lawyer, who has been introduced, removed and reintroduced, or gangs, that have been announced even before Alpha 1 and only been implemented just recently).

Opinions welcome. --YMS (talk) 08:25, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm in favor of completely removing it. It's like you said, there's no need for it. I would even delete reported bugs. That are things you could use the forums for. --TiRARdisk 09:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm waiting for some more voices here or for 1.0 to be knocking on the door before I will start really removing history from the articles. However, I'm already moving it to "History" chapters, so these kind of information can easily be identified and possibly removed without having to read and partly rewrite articles when it finally comes to remove the history information. Similar for bugs (though for those, you could say there will always be an interest, however, not for randomly selected ~ 25 from currently ~ 5000 open ones in Mantis): They now all use either Template:Mantis or Template:Verification Needed. --YMS (talk) 22:53, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
To make work easier later on, we could add these pages to a hidden category. Just adding {{History Chapters}} to the page that contains history. That will add them to the Category:History Chapters and so you have a complete overview. --TiRARdisk 13:55, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
If you think that will be helping, why not? I personally don't think it's needed, as you could simply search for "history", and pretty much all articles containing that word will have the according section. I think I already renamed all alternative names, like "Changes" and so on (in some cases, history information is contained in "Trivia" sections, but usually this is history information that I found to be interesting still). --YMS (talk) 14:20, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Ok, if you already renamed all chapters then probably it will be enough. We don't want to make work harder as it is. ^^ --TiRARdisk 14:32, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Renamed the "History" chapters of Warden and Lawyer to "Trivia", deleted all others today. They had been very incomplete anyway, missing many important changes. In case the devs introduce feature changes after 1.0 (they announced that they will go on with their monthly releases, and as they also want to go on with the monthly videos, it's probably not only bugfixes) and we want to re-introduce history sections for post-release history, this sure would have to be done n a more systematic way. --YMS (talk) 12:16, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Mainpage Layout[edit]

I've slenderised the main page, rearranged the boxes and added the game menu ui-icons to the navigation. Now you don't have to scroll to see the hole navigation. What do you think? --TiRARdisk 16:51, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

There sure are some good ideas in your concept. I like how you got rid of that huge footer, and I think it's a good thing to integrate the game UI icons instead of having a whole amount of unsorted text links in the navigation bar. I don't have a strong opinion about removing the brief changelog, expecially as we don't know how future changes will look like. It's probably okay to remove it. I don't like very much how you minimized the Prison Architect logo to almost the same size already present in the upper left corner of any page anyway. That feels a bit like removing the branding. And the tables (with the navigation links) within the boxes with the rounded corners also don't look too great in my eyes. But that's more or less details, overall I like your draft. Good work. --YMS (talk) 17:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
The table? Yes, I guess i know what you mean. I'll try something else. About the brief changelog: Well, I removed it, because the maintenance in this wiki is not comparable to, let's say, wikipedia. It will work for the english version maybe, which is certainly the most important version. But I try to keep an eye on the translated pages. This will be hardly maintainable. It's easy for anybody to change the version number in all languages, but the changelog? Don't know.
I reduced the logo, because it covers half of the screen (at least my screen^^) and you have to scroll to find the important links to the wiki pages. Well, I will play around with it a little. Let's see what it could be :D --TiRARdisk 05:39, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I like what you did change so far. The issues I mentioned are basically solved this way. --YMS (talk) 12:41, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Timely to the V 1.0 I now switched to the new layout. It has a better overview I think. I hope everybody likes it and consents. --TiRARdisk 13:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Love it! --Mythsnlore (talk) 00:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
THX ^^ --TiRARdisk 12:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Page Reference[edit]

I've made a template for showing the Game Version a page refers to. It can be put at the very bottom of a page. So everyone can see when the article was last updated, and if informations are up-to-date or maybe outdated. I tried this for Small Pipe to test it first. What do you think? --TiRARdisk 13:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, I integrated the page reference into the language template on top of every page. It's more useful, I think. --TiRARdisk 10:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

DevWiki Password Reset[edit]

Any reason why password reset on this wiki is restricted?